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coochie's avatar

Anecdotally, I’m a young guy with a recessed jaw and I haven’t really struggled to date, at least not more than my more physically attractive friends (taller, more muscular, etc). I’ve only really began dating in earnest (through match-group owned apps) 2 years ago and have been on dates with 14 people, 2 of which led to a sexual encounter and/or relationship. I keep my expectations realistic, and tend to chase people in my league (but sometimes I aim too low, and am not attracted to the other party). In my experience:

1. Your own perception of attraction doesn’t necessarily reflect how likely someone more/less attractive is going to see you - Of the 14 people I’ve seen for a first date , 6 people ended seeing me for a second date. Surprisingly, the women I found more attractive were more likely to see me for a 2nd date, and the women that I thought were less attractive would end up ghosting me/fading out. Admittedly, I “try” harder when I’m on a date with someone I find more attractive, and so there usually is more chemistry as a result.

2. Related to the 2nd point, personal taste matters - women have said they liked my face, despite it looking less masculine, and you can compensate for lack of facial attractiveness by using other attributes - growing out hair (someone said they were attracted to my hair!) and developing my wardrobe have helped me immensely. In many speed dating scenarios, even people in the least attractive quartile have gotten a match. This means you don’t have to rely on attraction growing or looks not mattering - it’s possible for people to genuinely desire you as an unattractive person

3. It’s all in your head - sometimes I’ll take a peak at r/amiugly and many people are attractive, but will mention how they’ve never had any dating success. When I click on their profile, oftentimes I’ll see a post on r/autism, r/anxiety, or an another subreddit related to mental illness, and it immediately makes sense. The normie advice is true - you have to go out, ask people out, and deal with rejection. Only 14% of my dates have become anything substantial. Sometimes I have left a date feeling like I killed it only to receive a “Hi! I think we’d be better off as friends” text, or even worse, no text at all. I credit my relative success due to the fact that I’m fairly extroverted, fine with traditional dating norms, and been able to identify and improve on weaknesses and get better. If you are mentally ill or disabled, this can be hard, and so then people blame their looks on what’s the doing of their mind.

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Black Pilled Paki's avatar

No. Everything matters. Face, eyes, skull shape, jaw, facial thirds, height, frame, etc.

You can have some flaws and still be overall physically attractive if you’re strong in other areas. If you’re weak in most areas, you’re likely to be physically unattractive

Physical attractiveness is a sum of many parts.

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