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Joseph's avatar

If rates of sexlessness are rising in both men and women, that doesn't mean that something like "Chadopoly" is wrong entirely. Since men and women's sexuality is different, as you pointed out to contradict some incel claims, it could be that males are having less sex because female standards are rising and they aren't chad, and females are having less sex because there aren't enough chads to go around and they won't settle for anything less.

I appreciate that you want to debate the black pill by using actual arguments instead of the usual platitudes and attacks of feminists and other "bluepillers" but you still seem to make the mistake of underestimating the effects of physical attactiveness using data that's hard to take seriously and making disingenuous arguments using autism and incel shooters which are outliers and not by any mean representative of the vast amount of men struggling with dating and sex.

In economics if the price of a resource (in this case sex) is too high and the supply is limited, the distribution will be mostly concentrated to a few people, so the chads may not be fucking the entire population of women under 30, but if you aren't "Chad" having a good sex life or being in a relationship with a desirable woman (not necessarily a super model, just not fat, not ugly and younger than 30) is very hard.

I think we should all accept the reality that in sex and dating, looks, status and money are first and everything else is second, and the trend in the west is that as women become more successful, their standards increase and they marry a lot less because most available men aren't attractive enough for them, hence why lower status men have to import wives from poorer countries, go "passport bro" or stay single, couple that lower sexual freedom and the result is most men will have little access to sex (with desirable women at least) and this situation could get pretty ugly, as it is always the case when competition for a resource that could be considered a biological necessity is brutal.

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Julio Gruñón's avatar

I also encountered the anomalies with the ever-had-sex question by birth cohort on the 2022-2023 NSFG. https://borncurious.blog/p/survey-quality-is-declining-because

In addition to the hypotheses suggested by Nuance Pill, I suggest a third: that there are people who just want to collect the $40 for completing the NSFG without spending the hour it takes to fill out the questionnaire, so they say they have never had sexual intercourse in order to skip most of the survey.

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